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FactoryGYMas rašė:

aš ir pamačiau tik profilį patikrinęs jis bijo injekcijų, tai tegu dar palaukia, pasidomi. Sueis bent 19-20 metų ir pats jau žinos ko nori. Aš ir visą gyvenimą adatų bijojau, bet po pirmos injekcijos baimė išnyko

pas mane lygiai taip pat.

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FactoryGYMas rašė:

aš ir pamačiau tik profilį patikrinęs jis bijo injekcijų, tai tegu dar palaukia, pasidomi. Sueis bent 19-20 metų ir pats jau žinos ko nori. Aš ir visą gyvenimą adatų bijojau, bet po pirmos injekcijos baimė išnyko

pas mane lygiai taip pat.

Bijojau ir as, bet susipirkau kursa ir jau nebuvo kur trauktis. Pirmos injekcijos buvo drebanciom rankom, akyse juodu vaizdu ir saltu prakaitu Tiesa pasakius iki siol nejauciu didelio malonumo badytis, bet kaip sakoma - grozis reikalauja auku

ir nauju siknoj skiliu.

Saw this on another forum, makes an interesting read but not sure how much of it is true. I've seen Paul Borresens articles in the past on huge doses and know people that run very high doses but this takes it to another level. Seen Nubain mentioned that a lot of the pros in the 90s abused a few times before so some bits probably true.


The following is a typical high level IFBB pro's various drugs use to combat the negative side effects of the muscle building chemicals.

1. xanax/klonopin/various generic benzodiazepines - everyone in the pro circuit takes large doses of benzos numerous times a day. High doses of certain drugs like trenbolone and equipoise cause panic attacks and general anxiety. Its pretty hard to be friendly and appear well adjusted at a gigantic bodybuilding expo, people constantly touching you, asking you idiotic questions, forcing you to take photos in ridiculous poses all day long.

2. ambien/trazadone/various generic prescribed sleeping pills - it is almost impossible to fall asleep on the amount of anabolics that is required to achieve necessary muscular size to compete at the top level. Sure, GH makes you very sleepy but unfortunately it becomes very very hard to actually fall asleep without the sleeping pills.

3. GHB - Used both in combination with sleeping pills to help fall asleep and maintain a deep level of REM sleep through the night and also as a party drug as an alternative to alcohol since it does not have a direct negative impact on protein synthesis. GHB, though, is becoming a major cause of health problems in current bodybuilders because nowadays must GHB is synthesized from GBL, which is used in paint thinner.



4. Amphetamines - Taking 20-40iu's of GH everyday makes you a zombie. You will always feel like you are about to keel over and fall asleep and the smallest things require an extreme amount of effort to do because you are so tired. Amphetamines (usually prescription dextroamphetamine pills) used throughout the day, especially during expos or guest posing events, are extremely helpful. This also, unfortunately, compounds the insomnia issue which then in turn leads to larger doses of sleep inducing drugs.



5. Soma or various generic spasmolytics - Mineral imbalances induced by large doses of oral steroids, diuretics or vitamin deficiencies due to diet as well as chronic injuries often lead to intense muscle pain and cramping. Regular usage of muscle relaxant drugs usually allow painless training and functioning.



6. Opiate painkillers - Chronic pain as well as the mental side effects induced by large doses of the muscle building drugs often lead to self-medication with opiates. Nubain used to be the most popular, especially during contest prep, but most people graduate from the "bain" and move onto roxicodone/hydrocodone/etc and eventually morphine or dilaudid. I remember talking to one guy in specific who was very big on the opiates and would inject them IV numerous times throughout the day to function. He told me something to the extent of "I'm already sticking needles in my body 10 or more times per day, what does another few injections matter?"



7. Ketamine - most popular as a party drug but very big during contest prep. Do the drug dosages - and types of drugs - a lot of guys find they need a mental escape during contest prep and falling into a "k hole" often does the trick.



8. Marijuana - Most top pros do not have a job so it is not a problem to smoke marijuana prior to almost every meal for obvious reasons, appetite stimulation and mild sedation.
ON TOP OF



6:00AM

50mcg t3

200mg caffeine

25mg primatene

10iu generic hgh subq

1mg sermorelin subq

50iu lantus subq

15iu humalog IM



Meal #1: 1 cup oats, 2 bananas, 12oz lean ground beef, orange juice

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10:00AM

200mg caffeine

25mg primatene

15iu humalog IM

Meal #2: 2 potatoes, 12oz lean ground beef

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1:00PM (pre workout)

200mg caffeine

25mg primatene

200mg TNE

200mg dianabol

50mg sildanefil

20iu humulin-R subq

20iu humalog IM

15iu nalbuphine IM or IV



Meal #3: 150g carb, 50g protein shake

Intra workout: 100g carb, BCAA's, creatine monohydrate, 25g protein shake

Immediately Post workout:

10iu human grade hgh IV

1mg sermorelin IM

~30 mins post hgh inject, drink 100g carb, 100g whey protein shake

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4:00pm

200mg caffeine

25mg primatene

15iu humalog IM

Meal #4: 2 cups grits, 12oz lean ground beef

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8:00PM

15iu humalog IM

Meal #5: 1 cup rice, 12oz sirloin steak, ice cream

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10:00PM

inject base steroids (test cypionate, deca, eq, whatever is currently being run)

10iu generic hgh subq

1mg sermorelin subq

30mg ambien

4mg klonopin

3g GHB

sleep



I. 16-8 weeks out

500mg sustanon ED

300mg deca EOD

300mg eq EOD

10iu chinese generic hgh ED

6iu serostim ED

2iu sermorelin 3x per day

10iu humalog before each meal

20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout

100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout

100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout

200mg TNE 90 mins pre workout



2. 8-4 weeks out

200mg test propionate ED

100mg TNE 3x per day

100mg tren acetate ED

600mg tren enanthate EW

200mg masteron ED

1000mg primabolan EW

10iu chinese generic hgh ED

6iu serostim ED

2iu sermorelin 3x per day

10iu humalog before each meal

20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout



3. 4-1 Weeks Out

150mg TNE 3x per day

250mg tren acetate ED

250mg masteron ED

1000mg primabolan EW

50mg halotestin ED

10iu chinese generic hgh ED

6iu serostim ED

2iu sermorelin 3x per day



4. 1-0 weeks out

250mg tren acetate ED

250mg masteron ED

1000mg primabolan EW

60mg halotestin ED

100mg dbol ED

100mg anadrol ED

10iu hulamog with each meal


*diuretics not included.


If that's the truth - being a PRO bodybuilder must be sh1tiest job in the world!

100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout

va cia tai noexplode nu ir siaip 500mg sustos ED ir t.t.

cia ir prie anekdotu galima butu ikelt

pirmoji dalis tai tikrai is fantastikos srities. zoles, benzodiazepinu, amfetamino, opiatu ir ketamino derinys gal kazko po viena kokiu nors trumpu periodu pries varzybas ir prisireikia.

Jonn rašė:

Sveiki. Planuoju pirmąjį kursą. Jis susidėtų iš Test prop + Anavar. 6 savaitės. Tikslas 3-5 kg gražios masės  ir jėgos padidėjimas. Sveriu 80kg. Bf 12%.

1. 1-6 sav. Test prop 2ml/100mg EOD
2. 1-6 sav. Anavar 40mg ED
3. 6-8 sav. Proviron 20mg ED

Ar viskas čia normaliai?

Provironas gal 25mg, 20 net neesu mates
Ir provirono mazokai, tamoxifeno bent menesi pakramtyk butu 6-10

Provironas neatstato testosterono. Tamoxifenas atstato.

Jonn rašė:

Sveiki. Planuoju pirmąjį kursą. Jis susidėtų iš Test prop + Anavar. 6 savaitės. Tikslas 3-5 kg gražios masės  ir jėgos padidėjimas. Sveriu 80kg. Bf 12%.

1. 1-6 sav. Test prop 2ml/100mg EOD
2. 1-6 sav. Anavar 40mg ED
3. 6-8 sav. Proviron 20mg ED

Ar viskas čia normaliai?

ar verta dėl tiek imt kursą ? nieko nesimatys tau nuo tų 3-5kg, nebent ūgis tavo 170   iki vasaros su gera mityba ir papildais drąsiai 3kg užsimesi.

80kg sveriant 3kg priaugt per 3 mėnesius tai ir be kurso galima. Ko toks piktas, depresija puola ?

Įmanoma 3kg raumens per 3 mėnesius užaugint, bet čia jau maximum, nes per mėnesį žmogus gali užaugint 0,5-1kg raumens. Aišku su kursu, kelis kartus greičiau viskas auga.  Nenukrypstam nuo temos.

Mjo... Jus cia biski kosmose sedit xebra, cia sportininkai dziaugias realiai uzkabinus raumens 3-4kg per visa kursa, Svenciu svente buna, o jus naturaliai per 3 menesiukus sausos mesytes.. mhm, Primena filmuka - rozine pantera

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